Lisa Loses Her Mind (completely)
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(For anyone who wonders why I can’t just “move on,” rather than write shit like this: As with my response to Lisa’s libelous Amazon review I am herein responding to being called a liar. I can put up with being lied to, but when you call me a liar, watch out. Here I come.)
A quote from the book: "…aside from something being wrong with Lisa, there is something wrong with her."
At the risk of overkill: the evidence continues to mount. I’ll reproduce an email Lisa sent to my UK publisher. As you’ll see, in the first part she threatens legal action.
She then comes up with a bunch of quotes from the book that she claims constitute libel. In other words, she is claiming that what I say in the book is not true, i.e., I'm lying. She’s calling me a liar. She says that she has "plenty of witnesses and documentation" to back up her claim of libel — that I'm lying in the book with these quotes. That I’m a liar.
There are plenty of witnesses and documentation all right, except it all backs up 100% the quotes she claims are lies.
For example, seven of the quotes refer to her cheating with her ex-boyfriend and/or one of her one night stands and then lying about it all.
Documentation? There is so much documentation — in Lisa's own words, via emails, letters, and her reply to my letter to her brother — that all this is true that I couldn’t fit it on this massive site. She completely admits to it multiple times.
And witnesses? There are witnesses all right. Virtually everyone in both Montauk and Pavones knows — from Lisa herself — that she screwed around (on me) with her ex-boyfriend then lied about it, and had a one night stand at the same time, right at the beginning of our relationship. (She actually had two one night stands.)
Her whole theory of my "delusions" was that I wouldn't forgive her for her early "mistakes" — the cheating and lying she admitted to. (If you’re one of her Montauk or Pavones “friends” you know this, unless you want to participate in her history rewriting.)
Plus: the first five of her quotes are from Part One of the book, which she herself read in 2003 and not only approved of, but gave it to friends at Montauk, saying she didn't mind my writing about the intimate details of our relationship. (She herself sent the most sexually explicit chapter to my site guy to post it on my site.)
She liked Part One because at the end I come to the conclusion that she is, after all, "a good and honest person." (I know: what a fucking idiot!)
No question, with the following email Lisa appears to have completely lost her mind:
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "Lisa LaMagna" <lisajean2000@yahoo.com>
> To: "Humdrumming" <orders@humdrumming.co.uk>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:23 PM
> Subject: Enquiry from Humdrumming
>
>
> >
> > I want a public apology, or you will hear from my
> lawyers. This is your
> > easy out. Defamation. Libel. Slander. Deception.
> Sexual promiscuity. Take
> > your pick. We have plenty of witnesses and
> documentation.
> >
> > I have done plenty of business in London and have
> a reputation to protect.
> >
> > — Lisa LaMagna.
> >
> >
> > "CAN'T YOU GET ALONG WITH ANYONE?"
> > A Writer's Memoir and a tale of a lost Surfer's
> Paradise
> > by Allan C Weisbecker
> >
> > Select excerpts, references of character attack:
> >
> > "..Lisa had got back with her ex-boyfriend then
> too - whom she told me she
> > had left - screwing him and so forth, meanwhile
> lying to me about where
> > she was and why she'd turned her cell phone off.."
> 84
> >
> > "A few days after our uneasy reunion and referring
> to her cheating and
> > lying, Lisa said this: "there are worse things a
> person could do to
> > another person in a relationship". 84
> >
> > "To sum up: With Lisa, I may be in love with
> someone deficient in
> > self-reflection. Someone who is dishonest. This is
> my worst nightmare" 84
> >
> > ".her cell phone was off, as it was continually
> last winter when she was
> > screwing her ex and lying about it.." 85
> >
> > "From where I sit waiting to find out if Lisa is
> doing something bad,
> > screwing her ex-boyfriend again most likely." 86
> >
> > "I wonder if Lisa will keep that promise, plus
> other promises…the one
> > promise already having been broken once, right in
> front of me..This aside
> > from the cheating and lying, which Lisa says is
> the worst thing a person
> > can do to another person in a relationship." 88
> >
> > "What a cheating, lying bitch that Lisa is!" 97
> >
> > "After I found out about her infidelity with her
> ex-boyfriend and then her
> > lying about it,." 119
> >
> > ".the rental house she'd be in at Montauk was
> about a quarter mile from
> > her ex-boyfriend's, with whom she'd cheated on me
> then lied about it
> > multiple times last winter and spring." 126
> >
> > "Lisa has a violent temper, he says. Comes up with
> anecdotes about her
> > violent temper, like the time she attacked him
> with a knife." 128
> >
> > "In other words, a couple of days before she gets
> on the plane to come see
> > me she's balling guys at random." 129
> >
> > ".I constructed a chart of Lisa's sexual partners
> for December 2002
> > through February, 2003..later that day I told Lisa
> what bothered me most
> > about all this was not so much the fuckfest with
> her ex, or the one night
> > (plus morning) fuckfest with the New Year's Eve
> guy, but the combination
> > of the two..I told her I was worried she had a
> dark side and that maybe
> > she thought this dark side was just a quirk or
> something…" 136
> >
> > "It's possible that she's fuckfesting with someone
> here at Pavones - a
> > sort of tropical Snowman [name for one of her
> supposed flings] or Cityman
> > [another name] incarnation - and is going to see
> him" 142- 143
> >
> > "Lisa's behaviour with other men, her apparent
> inability to refrain from
> > blatant flirting right in front of me was a source
> of anguish..I'd largely
> > put behind us the screwing around she'd done." 152
> >
> > "What does this mean? It means she was seeing her
> fuckbuddy that day. Why
> > else lie about when she first came back? ..Why
> else would she lie?" 238
> >
> > "It seems Lisa has a fuckbuddy after the other
> lies and cheating and
> > promises that the lying and cheating are over, and
> after Lisa read Part
> > One of this, wherein I say that my worst nightmare
> is being in love with
> > someone who is dishonest, and that Lisa is at
> heart a good and honest
> > person. That's real fear. 239
> >
> > "I had almost - not quite, but almost - put the
> Lisa/San Jose fuckbuddy
> > problem out of my head. And the idea of Lisa
> continuing on with her San
> > Jose fuckbuddy…" 250
> >
> > "Tomorrow March 2nd, will be one year to the day
> since I found out Lisa
> > had been fuckfesting with her ex-boyfriend and
> lying about it." 254
> >
> > ".you may be assuming that I've put the issue of
> Lisa and her treachery on
> > the back burner of my mind". 254
> >
> > .."she was jovial and breezy, the tone she uses
> when she's lying." 259
> > "Lisa recorded over the tape, most likely because
> she had called her San
> > Jose fuckbuddy when I was out..Why else would she
> record over the tape and
> > then lie about having done so?" 261
> >
> > "In thinking about her blatant flirtations with
> other men.I didn't think
> > about them, or tried not to. Ditto the lies she'd
> told early on regarding
> > her dalliances.." 262
> >
> > "In this one, Lisa's blatantly incriminating
> behaviours amounted a need to
> > be caught and then helped with her psychological
> problems." 263
> > "the other thing I worried about.was that Lisa had
> another fuckbuddy,.I
> > was not only remembering her bullshit excuses .."
> 306
> >
> > "There was also a breezy quality to her voice,
> which Lisa uses when she is
> > lying." 310
Okay, that's Lisa's nutso threat to my publisher. In the interest of brevity (hah!) I'll just deal with her denial of screwing her ex and lying about it, plus the one night stand she is now denying.
The following is taken from Lisa's reply to my letter to her brother, Marc, wherein I detail her lies and deceits. She purports to “answer” my version of our relationship:
Here I quote from an email I got from her ex, regarding her screwing him:
all right i'll clear the jan. (2003) thing up…i know andremember as if it were yesterday…..she had spentxmas and new years in ny. i asked her to come see me,that i missed her , i probably said something simple" lisa ,please come out , i miss you and we have to atleast talk."i can't be sure if she came on jan.4 or 5….but oneof those fore sure and i can check my diary …i havean account of everything from the time she first flewto san jose to " take a break" . (THIS REFERS TO THE LIES SHE TOLD HIM ABOUT COMING TO VISIT ME.) so i pick her up from the bus in montauk, and we walkthe nature trails,talking about what she's going todo. she doesn't know, and we speak more …..i'mtrying to find out what this thing with you is? overand over she assures me that you are much more into itthan she is (THAT SURE ISN'T WHAT SHE TOLD ME), which inspires me to continue mypersuit… she's responing to my advances and when weget back to south lake i convince her to have a showerwith me, and that's when things stated up again….ifyou mention the shower and she doesn't blush , welllet me just say that there were multiple orgasms, sheand i talked about "the shower" for long after.
Okay. That's from her ex. Think maybe that for some reason he’s lying? Okay. This is in Lisa's own words, referring to the above incident:
I got sucked back in emotionally. And then, yes, it got physical. (Talk about understatements!)
Okay. So much for her assertion that I lied in the quotes about her screwing her ex.
More from her ex's email to me, referring to one of her one night stands:
anyway she flew down to be with you, after telling meshe had no romantic interest in you and that she justneeded abreak…..what a lie that was!! after she came back ( and i knew now that you had beenwith her ) she told me there was this guy in ny thatshe picked up at a bar brought back to our apt and hada great time with…..actually i think she told me shefucked him, that's the way she put it……..i thinkthis information put me over the edge…..
Here's how Lisa refers to the New Year’s Eve one night stand. IN HER OWN WORDS:
And yes, I kept that from you. No, I should not have lied to you, the lie of omission. (Lie by omission!)
More in Lisa’s own words about the one night stand she is now saying I’m lying about:
I found my night with Robert (the New Year’s Eve one night stand) to be unsatisfying and realized later on what a dumb thing I had done, while at the time I thought I was being so liberated.
This whopper is one of my favorites. “Unsatisfying.” When caught on her screwing around, she went on and on about great the “uncommitted” sex was with the Brando look-alike (bragging to her friend Vanessa about this), and how she had orgasms and how they did it again I the morning and now, for Marc’s and Doc Bruce’s and poor Rick’s (our therapists, who she knew would read the letter) benefit it was “unsatisfying.” (She is trying to say she’s really not “that kind of girl”.) She lied right in front of me, knowing I knew she was lying. This is sociopathic shit – the rewriting of history in front of someone who knows the truth. It’s also emotional battery, by the way. For which I might sue.
If you think I’ve misquoted or taken anything out of context, go to the letter to Lisa’s brother itself, which is reproduced here in its entirety:
http://cygawa.aweisbecker.com/contents/category/part-4/
One more. In her quotes that she claims are lies Lisa twice denies having said that (referring to cheating and lying) “there are worse things a person can do to another person in a relationship.”
From the letter to her brother (my words first):
A related subject that has caused me continuing anguish: After the revelation of cheating on me with her ex, Lisa made this comment, regarding the cheating and lying she did: “There are worse things a person can do to another person in a relationship.”
LISA’S OWN WORDS: I’m sorry, I do absolutely positively believe there are worse things a person can do in a relationship.
Christ. Need I go on? I don't think so.
Point being: As I say in the book, true sociopaths (as opposed to merely dishonest people) have a problem (from their own point of view). To keep their lies and treacheries straight they often have to rewrite history when justifying themselves to others. Problem is, they’ll come to believe their own rewrite.
This can be inconvenient when “documentation and witnesses” clearly define the truth.
And they’ll fuck up in other ways, like forgetting to block their (or their current patsy’s) profile in a dishonest, libelous Amazon.com book review.
A final word, directed at her current patsy/fuckbuddy, Brian Neumann: How do you do it? How do you muster the degree of denial that allows you to believe she won’t do to you what she did to me?
Same question to those who have invested with her.
